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Friday, 12 September 2008

Zuma's supporters will continue to rape and molest



Judge Chris Nicholson at the magistrate court in Pietermaritzburg have today ruled that the prosecution on fraud and corruption of the ANC president Jacob Zuma is invalid. This will hopefully be the end of a eight years long soap opera, and now focus can be set on the future. South Africa needs stability so it can bring wealth and prosperity to its people. However, I fear that there will be a long wait for these riches if Zuma continues to surround himself with his fanatical and very unsympathetic supporters.

As I mentioned a couple of days ago on this blog (see Zuma and his supporters rape Lady Justice) the problem has probably never lied with Zuma himself but rather with the people around him. People that now probably want us to respect today's court ruling, but would have used all means available if the verdict didn't go their way. Having a ruling elite with such a short temper and such a low compassion for fellow humans is not ideal in a young democracy. Lets therefore hope that Zuma has the courage to clean out in his troop and get rid of the molesters of freedom and peace.

Update: South African president, Thabo Mbeki, seems to be maneuvered out by the ANC in order for Zuma to assume office. It would be something of an achievement if Zuma managed to do a worse job than Mbeki in ruling the country. However, it is important to stress once again that Zuma needs to sort things out among his maladapted scores of supporters.

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25 comments:

Censorbugbear said...

Your comment was so spot on! It will take months before this issue is resolved so the country will be rudderless. However even before that, it was without any kind of useful leadership. Mbeki inherited a first-world country, the powerhouse of Africa, and within 9 years managed to turn it into a Third-World swamp filled with deadly-ill, hungry, homeless people who are moreover under siege from thousands of feral youth gangs, armed with AK47s and Uzis. And that was Mbeki's legacy. Wonder what Zuma will have in store for us? http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

Goeienag Suid-Afrika. I must say this as an African and concerned former resident of South Africa. Since the terrorist Nelson Mandela was released the country has gone down the drain, and I for one am not surprised. Jacob Zuma and the rest of his mob will not stop until they have raped and murdered the South African population back to the stone age where Zuma and his crowd will feel at home. An ordered country brought low by the popular mandate of politically correct idiots from Europe and America. God help ons alles.

Geoffrey Goines said...

>censorbugbear

I can not second you on the notion of SA going from first to third world during the last 9 years.
From what I understand, parts of the country was the third world long before Mbeki, and much have not changed now. THAT is what I see as Mbeki's failure (together with his forgein policy, his view points on HIV and crime, and some other stuff).

Btw, have you read my post "Africa needs new blood"? It is a bit similar to one of your posts on your blogg.

Sincerely

Geoffrey Goines said...

>anonymous

Yes there is something fundamentally wrong in South Africa right now. But I see some hope and light in the situation, if only we can get rid of the hypocritical individuals (which are of unnatural high density in the ruling elite of the country).

Censorbugbear said...

South Africa was booming before 1994. The infrastructure was first-world, everything worked, there were many good hospitals, roads, health services for even the poorest for free, and unemployment was at a low level. There was no famine as there is now, and the apartheid government was building one-million new houses for the poor per year. I don't call that 'economically depressed', especially in view of the fact that this was all financed by a very small minority of taxpayers.
I used to travel all over the country as a medical journalist, and remember the uproar which occurred when a small community in a homeland was identified with cholera. The SA military was moved in smartly with field hospitals, clean-water supplies and emergency medical personnel to stop the outbreak from spreading. Now, cholera and other water-borne diseases are routine. Nobody cares any more about all the rubbish left lying around in the countryside and the streets, and the way people are polluting the water-ways. Those are all signs of a third-world country and that's just the tip of the iceberg. There's the collapsing power-grid for instance - ten years ago it was providing electricity to all of southern Africa and employed first-rate engineers to keep it going. Just google power grid, Eskom, South Africa and read all the horror stories of what is going on there now. Mines even had to shelve their expansion plans because ESKOM simply cannot guarantee a regular power-supply, which is what mines need if they want to operate safely.
This present government caused all this mainly because it was in such a hurry to replace skilled white people with much less-skilled black people and made a huge number of laws to make this happen, that they created a massive vacuum where skilled people were forced out of the country by the hundreds of thousands because they were denied access to the job market - only because they were white.

This goes for the medical and entire scientific and industrial sector as well. You can appoint people and give them fancy salaries and titles - but if they can't do the job, things go wrong very, very quickly. For instance, the nuclear power plant at Koeberg in the Cape has been offline for at least two months now, and keeps going offline after emergency repairs. Things are going wrong there in a big way because the skilled engineers just aren't there any more. The ANC is only good at one thing: and that is the spreading of propaganda. One should examine everything they say, check other sources, before believing that South Africa still has a sustainable economy. It doesn't. Mbeki's regime has seen to that. And once it's broken, an economy in Africa is very difficult to fix again -- the history of the continent is littered with failed regimes. In fact I cannot think of one African country where things are working the way they should. And they have run their countries 'independently' for the past fifty years. The only solution for Africa is to let them bumble on somehow to try and find their own levels of competence - and to not give them any more funds to keep them relying on hand-outs. It's time, in other words, that the entire African continent started growing up. Some countries, such as Tanzania, are now refusing foreign hand-outs and I congratulate them for that - it's the only way they can become truly independent.

And that goes for South Africa too. If the country really was such an 'economic powerhouse', why does it need the multi-billion Dollar handouts it's been getting?

Geoffrey Goines said...

>censorbugbear

It is a bit to much text for me to read. Reliable sources of mine say that very little have changed in SA from the decades before 1994 to the time after 1994.

Moreover, I wonder how much you have been outside SA for the last, say, three decades. The world have changed in a degrading way during this time, and I feel that it is a global thing. Therefore I feel it is a bit hasty to blame ANC for everything.

Censorbugbear said...

Geoffrey Goines - Indeed I am in South Africa regularly, and have family in the USA while living in Europe. I do believe I am well-informed about the 'global picture'. I will keep this short, won't want to overburden you with text.

Erik Svensson said...

Remarkable to see racist defenders of apartheid in South Africa that still refuse to admit that they were on the completely wrong side of history! "Censorbugbear" apparently still claims that Nelson Mandela is a "terrorist", when the real terrorist was the apartheidregime who oppressed not only the black majority in SA, but also occupied Namibia and contributed to the bloody civil war in Angola and supported the RENAMO-terrorists in Mocambique. Shame on you! You deserve no more respect than the nazi-apologets who still refuse to admit that Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich were bad, and who defends Hitler by referring to the many highways he built.

Censorbugbear said...

Nelson Mandela was arrested with huge quantities of weapons and enough explosives to blow up half of Johannesburg. He was responsible for ordering the deaths of many hundreds of people to achieve his so-called 'political aims' when in fact the country was already discarding the apartheid policy. He was a terrorist and would in New York today, still be judged a terrorist. In fact at his comrades' funerals, he still sings the murder-inciting-song 'Kill the Boer'.

klipgeit said...

Geoffrey.You are right.
Let me point out some small day to day irritations
1.telephone cables stolen 4x in as many months.
2.The grass and trees and just about my house on 2.5 hectare plot was burned 1 month ago.
3.4 geese stolen
4.20 squatters next door on an empty plot and police tried 2x to get rid of them.their way drinking Magau and leave.
5.New rates assessment changed from a plot + house to an empty plot(from R450 to R1800)problem still not solved after 2 months
6.Shopping 3 out of the 5 times overcharged takes ten minutes to rectify.
7.Walking daily with pistol cocked and ready to shoot.
8.Shotgun under the bed and pistol under the pillow at night.
8.My neighbor attacked at night,fired 8 shots,police arrive 30 min later and did not pay attention to the attacked,but interrogated me for 30 min for my shooting spree into the lawn,which saved the neighbours from being killed.The Security guard Chubb still sleeping.By the way it takes 45 minutes to lay a complaint with the police
9.Car service(full monty),screws and engine covers on the back seat(40 minutes to fix)
10. 35 power outages in 3 months
11.On balance of probability Zuma is a crook and a thief and on balance of probability Zuma is a marionette President for the unions
and youth league and Mantashe and Viva.It will not only be rape and molesting it will be a super 3rd world country,in which the whites
behave like pity full idiots and the blacks like devolving apes
Thanks
Dok (a Dutchman in South Africa)

Censorbugbear said...

Here's a list of the latest horrors which foreign visitors to South Africa were targetted by:
It's a long list, with lots of links and pictures, yet these events all occurred just over the past few months. My premise is that South Africa is far too dangerous to hold the WC2010 tournaments in, and that Sepp Blatter and FIFA should have their heads read. Their are luring a lot of hapless tourists to their deaths, to being raped by HIV-infected gangsters and to years of trauma due to the violence they will be subjected to.

SEE THE LIST with ALL THE LINKS to the original sources:

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com

Geoffrey Goines said...

>censorbugbear

But have you experienced the development of the "global situation" over the last 2-3 decades?
The reason for my question is that your arguments remind me of those by South Africans who never been outside their country.

However, I do agree with you that the situation in SA is critical, but I also want to point out that for example the situation in former eastern europe is now very similar. Some people are yearning back to the old system because the think it was safer. I can only comment on this by interacting with people that are fostered by and hold on to the old values of the systems, respectively. And I stand by my choice when I say that I prefer the crime rates of e.g. SA and Russia before the kind of, in my eyes, primitive behaviour that communism/apartheid gave rise to.

klipgeit said...

Geoffrey.
Wow.
I am 70 and lived in Africa for 40 years.
I was an onlooker in Kenya(Mau Mau),
in thee Congo/Katanga(Tsjombe),in Zambia(takeover),in Zimbabwe,in Botswana(Seretse and Ruth Khama)
finally in South africa.
Your latest remarks smells of naivity.
Now I am not going to explain again the Apartheid Saga,just in short.
Apartheid(starting with Jan van Riebeeck) gave the African the wheel and the alphabet.
The African "made" the soccer-ball without being able to play it and the African domesticated the alphabet like a-b-c-z-y-h-g-etc formulating it into One settler ,one bullet.
What your experience is I do not know,so before you make such "drastic" statements,please think first.
We are not yearning back,we are certainly not interested in undereducated politicians(including the opposition)or outright dumbos in the municipalities

Geoffrey Goines said...

>klipgeit

well, sometimes you do get the impression that people are wishing back to the ol' good days...
As you probably have noticed on this blog I am far from naive when it comes to politics in southern Africa.

However, the kind of behaivour I have encountered by "children of apartheid" makes me choose the crime infested SA of today before the apartheid SA of the past (if I can only make the chocie between these two alternatives, that is to say).

klipgeit said...

That is your choice, a bit strange and weird.
For your info;
To date (ten years)just on 3000 farmers killed and I do not mention all other murders.

Ten years in the so called Apartheid
between about 1980 and 1990 about 18.000 Africans(Zulus/Xhosa killed by, I repeat, by their own ANC.
Loss of life is the most important common denominator.
I hope you will see a repeat again esp.in KZN.
When I lived in Ladysmith and a police reservist,I was shocked to see the vile murders.
Later on in Kagiso,I was with a private ambulance unit,the same horrendous murders(faction fighting.

I spend 3 months in Botswana between the San people (with the help of Jackie Khama) and they have a saying:"When you kill a buck say a prayer of thanks before you eat the buck,but when you see a Nguni destroy and spit on it.
So much for your opinion.

Geoffrey Goines said...

>klipgeit

Sure, it is my opinion, at it is based on the primitive behaviour that South African's have displayed towards me and my dear one (And I point out again, a behaviour that is a result of the apartheid system).

I feel I can live a more normal life in SA today than I would have been able to do during apartheid.

klipgeit said...

Please do not be offended----I had a quiet laugh and it reminded me of the Dutch during the last war.
I was a kid of 10 in the Japanese concentration camp(Kramat and Tjideng.
After liberation we arrived back in the Netherlands and the FIRST remark made by my Dutch family was:"You were so lucky that the whether in Indonesia was so arm and lovely,we in Holland suffered the winter and hunger.
My family was and still is a hoity toity one,by birth and by endurance(so arm as 'n kerkrat after the war) and looking at situations logically.I was imprisoned in Zambia and Botswana not for a crime but for political reasons IE:not accepting that a white is second class.Yet the Khamas-the Mwangas-the Kaundas admired me for my integrity.
Quite frankly I have no time for whinning,which in all probability is your own making,like it was mine.
I love South Africa-I love the Boers and I appreciated the Apartheid concept(a natural concept),I do not appreciate the laws made,which after all was started by the British before 1948 AND is applied again or reintroduced by the present regime.
Live with it and be happy and one day when you reach my age(if that is possible with the present murder rate) you will look back with a smile at your own "hatred"

klipgeit said...

Erik Sencor is quite correct,but that is between you and her.
Just a correction.
1.Read history
2.Angola was not the Apartheid's doing it were the Americans asking the government to help out(Cuban threat)and it were the Americans to ask the government to get out again,which they could not do straight away.
It as Apartheid which made Angola a better place :) :)

Nice confusing post lmao

Geoffrey Goines said...

>klipgeit

A simple question: Have you lived in a so called "mixed relationship" in SA? If not, than you have very little experience of apartheid...

klipgeit said...

Depends what you mean by "mixed relationship"
If it is bed hopping and building a tent when looking at a non European.
No.
I have never been attracted to Africans(their hair puts me off)neither have I been attracted to Indians(sickly skin colour)nor coloureds(missing or false teeth)
To put it different--I favour an Orchid,but I can see the beauty of a Tulip or a Rose.However I will never buy either one of them.So basically their culture is not mine.Besides I do not wish my mixed kids to be disadvantaged.
If I wish to have such a relationship I will move to a neigbouring countryor to one of the homelands.

If mixed relationship means whether I have been in locations or private houses of non-Europeans Yes, plenty of times and they at my place.
To say for a 28 year old that I must have a mixed relationship before knowing Apartheid,is to say the least very strange.
You say that all Afrikaners must have a mixed relationship before understanding Apartheid.
Apartheid is more that just sex with another race.
If any of my kids were to marry a non-European,I ban him/her from my house,be it in South Africa or the Netherlands

Say what bothers you about Apartheid and your experience or speak to an Israeli who perfected the Apartheid ideology.

Geoffrey Goines said...

>klipgeit

Yawn...
You know very well what I mean by mixed relationship.
Yes, I feel that someone that celebrates apartheid as God's gift to mankind should perhaps at least experience some of its downsides before making such statements.

I stand by my opinion. I choose today's SA in front of the apartheid SA. I have at least seen and, more or less, experienced the consequences of both systems, whereas you apparently have not.

klipgeit said...

Yawn as much as you want.
No,I do not know what you mean.
I asked a straight forward question.
"What do you mean by mixed relationships.Sex or friendship or
a noncommittal relationship.
Perhaps I should ask the 500 non-Europeans who worked for me.
After 40 years of Apartheid and the present dispensation I have an opinion based on experience.
Be straight and you shall have a straight answer,not a comme si comme ça answer just to satisfy your readers and yourself.
Dare to be not more or less,be a exact If you can not, please keep quiet and let the more informed do the talking,before you really make an ass/horse relationship a mule.

Geoffrey Goines said...

>klipgeit

I gather that you have not had any real mixed relationships during apartheid (yes i meant the sexual ones). And therefore you cant claim you have a better understanding of the situation than me. I repeat what I wrote before; I prefer a SA infested with crime, but where I can love whoever I want, instead of a SA infested with regulations of who I can spend time with. Is my opinion so strange?

klipgeit said...

You gather right,why should I
My claim still stands,you know nothing and your reply is soooooo funny,it kills me.
I gather I know nothing about aids,as I have never had a" sexcapation" with an Aids infected female.
This expertise is yours.
I gather I have never "loved " a Great dane and thus knowk nothing about a Great Dane's life.
I gather I have never made it wih a "homo" so I have no understanding of an anal life.
I gather I am not an evolving ape and thus know nothing about the 12 monkeys(sorry 13).
I gather I was not at least 14 years before Apartheid was dismantled,BUT know sooooo much about apartheid.
I gather I will make love to my hearts delight to understand a whore.

I gather --I gather-- I gather.

A Swedish feminist said once:"In Sweden there is a gap between words and reality"
She is right.
Have a nice Swedish day with your Iraqis-Yugoslav's-Somalis-Iranians-Serbs-Bosnian-Monte-negroes-
and your own coloured family.
You are impregnating every dumb thing under the sun and that makes you an expert in sperm enrichment in South Africa at an age of 14.
Join the Peace Corps and play your silly word game in the Kalahari or with the Fallashas.
Have a great New Year.

And yes.your opinion is not only strange but wackie.

Geoffrey Goines said...

>klipgeit

What is funny is that u cant point out what is so wrong with my opinion. I am saying that the downside of a an aprtheid-inspired system affects me and my living more than the downsides of the current system in SA.
Am I wrong for valuing freedom of loving whoever I like higher than I value the freedom of walking safe at nights?