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Sunday, 4 January 2009

I hope Israel will wipe out Palestine 2.0

Three days ago I wrote a post on this blog about the current crisis in the Gaza-strip (see I hope Israel will wipe out Palestine). I quickly received a lot of comments that either praised me or condemned me for what I had written. And one can see that it took some 50 comments before anyone actually bother to reflect on the core of my message; Why is it that people get so upset when killing, slaughter and mutilation occur in one part of the world, but remain silent when it happens in another part?

When I, in the last couple of months, tried to steer focus towards the conflict in DRC, the HIV epidemic, or the ongoing and prospective food crisis, I got practically no reaction. Perhaps I didn’t use an as controversial title as I did in the Israel-Palestine post. But surely post like; "HIV/AIDS research is a waste of money" and "Can starvation be of any good?" deserve some attention. Or are we so exceptionally narrow minded that we can only focus on one conflict at the time? Have we become completely unable to give our divided attention and engagement to more than one suffering group of people at a time?


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57 comments:

Anonymous said...

I hope Hamas will kill all jews !!!!

Anonymous said...

"I hope Palestine will wipe out Israel 2.0"

fahad said...

Mr Ape,

I understand where U R coming from and support what you are saying but I think there is you are missing a major point of difference between issues in DRC, AIDs spread in Africa and the Mugabe related issue.

You see no one really goes out and says that Mugabe is a saviour of humanity and what he is doing is absolutely right. Or that AIDs happens so those who lose their loved ones should learn to deal with it.

Here in this issue however you have a govt with F16 raining down bombs on urban areas and the mayor of New york is coming on TV and saying that those pilots are saviours for western world! He actually is going out and saying this. and Bush saying that well it was the Hamas who is responsible for death and destruction.

Now this is something that really makes you speak out on behalf of the oppressed. It is not the matter of right to existance, it is a matter of calling the terrorist the saviour.

Hamas rockets are bad, I am not defending them but what of those cluster bombs from F16s?

Hope this help you understand.

PS: And yes there are plethora of other reasons for this conflict to get more limelight.. this is just one of those reasons why it gets more coverage than DRC

Geoffrey Goines said...

"You see no one really goes out and says that Mugabe is a saviour of humanity and what he is doing is absolutely right. Or that AIDs happens so those who lose their loved ones should learn to deal with it."

That is exactly what is happening, and this needs to be brought out into the light!

Anonymous said...

I understand that you have trying to get some buzz around other important problems in the world. But no point is worth getting throw with such a heading. Think about it ?

Anonymous said...

I too understood what you wrote, but I didn't wanted to spoil discussion. :)

Anonymous said...

The Israelis should be treated as they treat the Palestinians, the difference is, they donot have the support of the allmighty amis, who cannot make money with Palestinians and they can make a lot of money with the jews.

Anonymous said...

Israel should wipe out all the primitive terrorists in the region! GO ISRAEL!!!

Anonymous said...

so, to sum up :

humanity ought to wipe out itself!

that's in the end, what all the intelligent, well phrased comments, actually do suggest...

Anonymous said...

I hope that Israel will clean out Gaza and make it the world's largest parking lot! Thats the only solution to the conflict.

Long live Israel!

Anonymous said...

I am a girl from the south of Israel, and we don't want to destroy them, my country just want the Hamas will stop wiping us.
One women in my town, Ashdod, has been murdered by the Hamas rockets.

Before we started attecing them, we had an agreement, that any side won't do nothing to the other side.
But of course, one morning they informed us that they stop the agreement. in this day, 60 rockets have been shoted into Israel.

If Israel won't do anything, I will keep living in scare, dangarous and a big fear. When there is an alarm, everyone must run into save place. In my country we have 45 secondes to arrive into a save place. In sderot there are only 15 secondes!

And the international communication should report more about my side! more than 300 people are injured, one dead soldier and more than 3 citizen that have been murdered. (and this is only from the begining of the attecing. rockets have been shoting into us more than 5 years!)

I hope that the arabic population will start understand that it's our prerogative to defend ourself becouse the Hamas want to wipe Israel, and the fact that you hate us doesn't metter, becouse the only reasons for your demonstration are:
1-You hate us
2-The communication is almost say nothing about the Hamas attack in Israel

So stop your foolish comments like "I hope Hamas will kill all jews !!!!" and ""I hope Palestine will wipe out Israel 2.0"
"

Anonymous said...

GO ISRAEL!

pedro pereira neto said...

... and i hope next time you read a few History books and get your story straight before writing down dumb posts... do you remember how the state of israel came to be, and how "its territory" was stolen from neighbouring countries?... do you recall how israel never followed any UN resolution?... how it never acknowledged having forbidden nuclear weapons?... if you're going to comment something, please, make sure you know what you're talking about...

one last thing: what exactly is "politically neutral" about who you are, and what you wrote...?

Anonymous said...

And who paid Hamas to bomb Israel? Hamas are a bunch of bandit´s work with the Israels, so the Israels have a excuse to take the rast of Palestine

Geoffrey Goines said...

>pedro pereira neto

Exactly what in my post needs the support of a history book? Do i need to know the history of Israel and Palestine when I question why human life is worth so much more in the eyes of media and blogers, if that life belongs to a Palestinian rather than a Congolese or Sudanese...?

Politically neutral means that I have the rare ability of criticizing anything and anyone on the WHOLE political scale.

Anonymous said...

Hamas is the people of Gaza, they didn't come from Mars. If you really want to know where these people, refugees living in refugee camps for the last 60 years, came from, they were cleansed from the same villages they are rocketing. These villages with Hebrew names have Arabic names. These people terrorized since 60 years ago and jailed in a concentration camp called Gaza have had all kinds of hell poured down on them and they've had enough. HAMAS was democratically elected and now the whole 1.5 million population has been punished and continue to be slaughtered and degraded for exercising their democratic right, a right the US has invaded Iraq for. They've had enough of dying slowly.

Anonymous said...

Please understand that the people of Gaza, IF they elected Hamas democratically, have brought this war upon themselves. Of course they did not know about it at the time, however, when you elect a party (which actually has its own army branch)and a "kill all Jews" platform, you basically go against Israel. I believe that England, France and the USA would do exactly the same if a neighboring country would elect a party which calls to destroy them.
I would like to point out that although Israel is trying to take down Hamas members, while engaging in urban combat (MOUT) - what Hamas is deliberately forcing them to do, they are still doing their best not to hurt civilians, which is much more than can be said about Hamas.

Anonymous said...

I hope Israel nukes a number of middle eastern countries including Iran.
This will get rid of a lot of the scum and problems of the world.
Go for it Israel and god be with you.

Anonymous said...

First of all, as an Israeli, I have to note that all those "Go this side!" and "I hope this side kills the other side" don't lead to anything.

The only way to get somewhere is by some sort of mutual agreement by both sides.

However, the current situation is that the controlling totalitarian group in Gaza, named Hamas, does not wish in any way to negotiate with Israel. They do not even accept Israel as real being. One of their main lines on their platform is to eradicate all Jews in the region. They are violently suppressing any opposition in the strip. By "violent" I mean arresting, torturing, public executing everyone which comes in their way.

Israel has been trying to negotiate with them for a long time, and the highest interest was to keep their borders and citizens safe. In return more supplies will be sent, and routes to Gaza will be re-opened. After that, negotiation of prisoners will begin, and in the end a long-term peace agreement.

Currently there is no-one in Gaza to talk to. Israel refuses to speak with a group which refuses to recognize Israel as a nation.

On the west bank, by the way, Israel has been negotiating with the Fatah for more than a year. Israel has been releasing prisoners, while Fatah is working hard to maintain order and arrest Hamas militants and other outlaws. The talks are advancing very slowly, and both sides are cautious - but it is going somewhere.

You must understand that a nation that tried and failed all forms of peaceful negotiations in order to provide long-term protection its citizens, will resort to a limited military solution.

The final goal is to let go of Gaza, again, and hopefully re-negotiate with the other side.

Awareness said...

If there is one who wins, then both are still losers.
I have no respect for Israël any more.
Just take care of the children who are made of paper.
What will happen after, when there is no war? Brotherhood of dinks.
What do other's think?
You can not trust killers.
No matter, CRAZY people fit just perfect in our world.
Where they speak of the better murders in a police serie, or buy our diapers to then donate a tetanus shot. We are the world.........

Awareness

Anonymous said...

Israel is just defending themself after years and years of terrorist attacks in the land that the world gave them. I think its tragic, but i still think what Israel does is necessesary. USA got one attack, and used that as reason for going into Iraq. Israel got many attacks: DIRECTED to civilians, and kept on giving warnings. They've crossed the line, and think they will get Israel good. But they wont. Israel got way better technology, and intellect and they will be capable of destroying whatever challange they face. I think its tragic so many civilians suffer from this war, but there are proborly no other way, the only thing muslims understand is brute force. And on top of that, the people Israel are after, hides among civilians. They are bringing this upon themself.

And Israel, there are some people still supporting you, even though most of the world is supporting the terrorist.

Daniel said...

Why ain't ANY other country coming to the "palestinians" rescue???

I'll tell you why: They don't like them at all..

They are a bunch of troublemakers and there will NEVER be peace in the middle east before they accept the borders that UN laid down initially..

Hey, wait... israel HAS accnowledged those borders... it was others that did not accept them..

And.. again, the borders of 1967: ISRAEL PULLED OUT OF THE GAZE STRIP IN 2005... bulldozed all jewish settlements and arrested 100's of jews..

Gaza is NO LONGER OCCUPIED... but still... THEY want MORE!!

Give up!! Make peace!! PLEACE!!!!

IDIOTS!

Børge said...

Hope there will be a lot of dead idf soldiers, hope they wil burn in hell..

Awareness said...

It sounds so damn silly, that then the whole world gave land. "Uhhh, big deal" Jesus!!
Many countries in the past murdered people and took land, now that sounds natural in my ears!
I hate the scociety we live in and love people.
You have the right to your land, PERIOD!!!!
I thought that Iraq was a inspiration, we do think that simple, almost a liscence to kill.
Talk both of you(!), and stop killing people!!!
What I know of Hamas, is only that it has a "ring in my bell" that they are bad. The IRA, that was a group, originated in a land which I now very much admire. I would like to hear a REAL good reason, why Hamas is attacking Israël?
What would Arafat say? What would Golda Meir say?
For Israël I say that it is VERY stupid to be agressive.
Do not and never say that a woman or a man or child that has the Muslim faith, automatically has ONLY brute force, that is REALLY stupid. I can laugh with them, and really good, you know!! That is sign of real brotherhood.
Most of the time we laugh at Jewish people (COMMEDIANS), and it looks like you as a country also holds a "defending curtain".
Throw it AWAY, AND LET YOUR PANTS DOWN, then you would really get for once ADMIRATION from the world.
There are also GOOD people on he other side , LOOK them up!!!
And if you say NOT, that is "bullshit", as the americans say.

Anonymous said...

Nuke all the Terrorist, all that Arab countrys that have terrorists shold be converted to dust. I don't have nothing againts Islamic religion but I have everything radicals that thint that they are alone in the world.

Anonymous said...

Yes kill all hammas

mona said...

man, this is a load of crap, ok! so fuck you, fuck your mothers and fuck your so-called "israel-state" fuck ya'll!
and i actually hope that hamas will wipe you dirty, jewish, pig asses and send you to hell 4ever!

Anonymous said...

mona shalin is that you ?

Anonymous said...

Ok, you call yourself the evolving ape. Wonderful. So you have not yet evolved into a human, then? That explained a lot to me. Thank you.

Have a nice day/banana.. or whatever.

Daniel said...

mona: With people like you, I can clearly understand why there NEVER will be peace b/w so-called palestinians and israelis..

Geoffrey Goines said...

"Ok, you call yourself the evolving ape. Wonderful. So you have not yet evolved into a human, then? That explained a lot to me. Thank you."


Somebody slept through the evolutionary biology lesson...

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Peppami said...

Medics tell Press TV they have found traces of depleted uranium in some Gaza residents wounded in Israel's ground offensive on the strip.

Norwegian medics told Press TV correspondent Akram al-Sattari that some of the victims who have been wounded since Israel began its attacks on the Gaza Strip on December 27 have traces of depleted uranium in their bodies.

The report comes after Israeli tanks and troops swept across the border into Gaza on Saturday night, opening a ground operation after eight days of intensive attacks by Israeli air and naval forces on the impoverished region.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak warned on Sunday that the wide-ranging ground offensive in the Gaza Strip would be "full of surprises."

A ground offensive in the densely-populated Gaza is expected to drastically increase the death toll of the civilian population.

The latest assaults bring the number of Palestinians killed to over 488 with 2790 others wounded. The UN says that about 25 percent of the casualties were civilian deaths - including at least 34 children.

According to Israeli army officials, at least 30 of its soldiers have been wounded since the start of the ground campaign.

Amid global condemnation of the ongoing violence in the region, the UN Security Council failed to agree on a united approach to resolve the crisis.

"Once again, the world is watching in dismay the dysfunctionality of the Security Council," UN General Assembly chief Miguel d'Escoto said Sunday.

According to diplomatic sources, the US blocked a Security Council resolution, with US Deputy Ambassador Alejandro Wolff arguing that an official statement that criticizes both Israel and Hamas would not be helpful.

The White House has so far declined to comment on whether an Israeli ground incursion into Gaza is a justified measure.

Anonymous said...

I hope Israel blows them all to shit

Anonymous said...

I do not hope that anyone will win. Gaza should be declared as a independent country, where both muslims and jews can live in peace. The civilians do not want war. They are glad to live in peace and freedom. All in all this is just a war because of religions. Hamas hates israeli people (civilians too), and the army of israel are taught to damage muslim civilians.

So stop being a jerk, saying that you hope these things to happen. Hitler did one big mistake. He didn't exterminate the jews. Is that okay to say? Not OK, right?

Or what about: I hope all the terrorists groups will nuke israel to hell? Not OK!

I, personally, should wish the israeli forces and hamas could go to hell. they cause nothing but problems.

Dollmaker said...

"Gaza should be declared as a independent country, where both muslims and jews can live in peace."

It would never happen. As soon as the independent city state was created, radical forces within the city would immediately begin to fight and kill over who should control the city.

The Israel/Palestine conflict will never truly end until one side is wiped out so badly that it cannot reform. Nazism was not destroyed until every German city was bombed into ruins, millions were dead, and Allied forces were in total control of everything in Germany, including the law. Such will have to be the case, one way or the other, in this conflict.

Anonymous said...

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Johan said...

Israel should retreat and start a media war towards Hamas. Show the world how Hamas creates hate, show how jews are portrayed in the media and make the world know daily how many missiles have been shot from Gaza, Lebanon or any other region surrouding the country. Every casualty or injury should be broadcasted for the world to see.

That and continuing negotiations with Fatah and a more open relation towards the West Bank.

I hope when Obama becomes president he takes steps toward placing UN-forces in the northern parts of Gaza to keep things stabile. I belive the only ones who truly wants a war is extremists on both sides and if Israel hadn't attacked the chanse of the extremists in that country would have a great chance to get influence - wich I hope won't happend.

Anonymous said...

According to history books the area of Israel was a spoil of war. No land was stolen. The British simply exercised there right to do as they please to what they now possess. So which part of the history books where you skipping? The war part? oh that's right the Muslims stole the Jewish land prior to WW2. Oh I can smell the liberal bias from these posts who clearly don't read history. One must remember. Everyone has the right to land as long as they can defend it. If they cease the ability to hold that lend they will lose it. that's how all nations came about and thats the only rule there is. Long Live Israel!

shoftho said...

The problem is that noone adresses the real problem. When Israel was established in 1948 the plan was to establish two separate states, Israel and Palestine.
Both Israelis and Palestinians has the right to live inside safa borders. There will be no peace in the Middle-East until Israel leave the occupied areas on the West Bank. They have to demolish all illegal settlements and reestablish the borders from 1967.
I do not support Hamas. I support the Palestinan people and the Israelis. But I do not, in any way, find any excuses for the use of excessive violence conducted by Israeli forces.
The last war has been planned for several months. It is not an answer to Hamas rockets from mid-December. Negotiate, talk together, persuade USA to lean on Israel to make them leave Palestinian land: the West Bank.

Anonymous said...

Israel lost my respect....
I dont cheer for neither of them, but i read the history, and think Israel hides behind religion, so does the others,but give the palestines freedom...and their land... I hope the world will live in peace, but as long as men are in this world, it will never happen, they dont think straight... Religion is the root to all evil, so are the male population of this world...
brainwash and destroy...
They dont talk, just kill, give women the power, and you will see!!!

Lars said...

You are not an evolving ape..
Why do you support the slaughter of innocents? And war crimes..?
OK, I understant that israel is fed up with hamas, but in the long run, how many israelis have been killed in the conflict contra palestinians. If israel would get their settlers out of the occupied areas, cause they have stolen land from palestina, and they don't listen to any other country.
wow, only countries like iran, zimbabwe, north korea and their alike, are as oblivious as israel.
Hope Barack Obama puts an blockade to their country.
The israelis are the new nazis!

scud said...

The problem the western world has is that the dont understand islam.
Islam hate jews AND the western modern world.
There can never be peace when you have crazy muslims like bin laden and the goverment of iran supporting terrorists group like hamas, hisbollah and plo.

It was wrong of bush to attack iraq.
He should take iran......then there would not be this war in gaza!

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Daniel said...

Johan: They have already tried that!! But the world is not interested in helping out in the middel-east.. they just suddenly come to the palestians rescue when israel looses it's patience..

Daniel said...

Lars: Where are you getting your information from? Gaza has not been "occupied" since 2005 when the last settlers were removed by force by the IDF..

Only since then the rockets have been crashing down from Gaza continously.

Back to the history books Mr. Lars...

Anonymous said...

Israel needs to have Operation: Wrath of God 2.0 .

Islam is a bs religion thats why they live in the dirt and whine about America when it's their own corrupt governments fault.

Anonymous said...

nest time the sand niggers fuck with israel they will make this place a parking lot

Anonymous said...

wipe out all sand niggers now
everyone in the world hates palestinian sand niggers even other arab countries the niggers of the middle east

Anonymous said...

the chosen people of the bible own this land period

bomb all sand niggers into eternity now

Anonymous said...

Ham-ass will be eradicated next time they fuck with the jews

nuff said

happy day

Anonymous said...

I hope Israel Kills all the Palestinians! And I hope the kill Obama too.

Afarin Maleki said...

Our Islam brothers shall eradicate the Jewish menace from this world. Be sure that we will conquer and destroy the Islam and Christian armies who try to humiliate and destroy Muslim nations.

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Anonymous said...

About time we nuked Israel, worthless people.

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